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DoubleL
Scott from Ohio, joined wrestlingmarks.com on 2/8/08
The Best There Ever Will BE? HUH?
by DoubleL on 7/10/08 7:55 PM
Ok I'm probably going to get ripped on this one but hey, what?s all little controversy with an opinion. Bret the Hitman Hart. . . The best there is, The best there was and The best there ever will be! Yeah right! The man did have some good matches in his 13 year career with the WWE and some less than stellar matches in WCW. Hart had some good matches as a tag team member of the Hart Foundation with Jim Neidhart against Demolition, Legion of Doom and the Rockers and as a singles competitor Hart had great rivalries with Diesel, Owen Hart, Stone Cold Steve Austin and the Undertaker. His most notarized opponent would definitely have to be Shawn Michaels, between the two guys they had a lot of controversy and drew loads of money, but when you think of it, who do you believe drew more of the crowd Bret or Shawn? They both were at the top of their game but who was more marketable? I'd say Shawn, hands down, yeah the Hitman possess a lot of in-ring talent but he was stale. In his interviews he whined a lot and was very monotone, sounded sort of like what Keanu Reeves would if he was oa WWE star on the mic.
Bret's matches didn't lack as much as his interviews did because the man had the technical skills to make his matches good but they were not good to call them ?great?. I have his DVD "the Best there is the Best. . . ." Blah whatever and after watching his matches it was pretty much bland. So bland that I nodded off half way through the DVD because it was so typical what he did every match, there were no variations to his matches it was the same turning point with the same moves over and over. An easier way to say it is he was stale, boring. The only true pop Hart got when performing in the ring was when he ran full force to the corner turnbuckle sternum first.
Now back to his overall attitude, The man was a whiner and to justify that take a look at the ever controversial "Montreal Screw Job", yeah it was very sneaky and underhanded from one vantage point, but from a business stand point McMahon did what he had to do cause he to make sure Bret didn't screw him like Hall and Nash did. McMahon didn't want Bret to do what Alundra Blaze/ Medusa did to the WWE Woman?s title and drop the WWE World Title in a trash can on National TV, so he screwed Bret cause Bret didn't want to give the title up. If I had to put the best quote forward to the issue that happened in Montreal it would be from, Triple H on the Shawn Michaels DVD, "Fuck him, if he doesn't want to do business then you do business for him!" This in my mind was justified to save the image of the company. Bret only made himself look more like a baby by smashing the monitors at the color commentator?s desk, spitting on his boss and then looking at the camera and writing W-C-W in the air. Then to top things off, Hart goes in to his McMahon?s office and literally punch him in the eye, and I just find it sad that someone who was respected by so many people would do such an embarrassing thing to the company who made him a star, it?s just sad.
Harts latest antics were pretty pathetic, where he had the opportunity to give a speech about his late father Stu Hart,who was giving the honor of being inducted into the Dan Gable Hall of Fame in Waterloo, Iowa. During Bret's speech he threw a tantrum over columnist Greg Oliver for Slam Wrestling who also was in attendance to receive an award. Hart had a grudge against Oliver for Oliver?s' book "Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Canadians" in which Oliver listed Hart #14 as one of the greatest Canadian wrestlers of all time. Hart must have still had a little chip on his shoulder for the low ranking, so Hart gave an ultimatum during the speech stating that either Oliver leaves the ceremony or Hart will leave and without conflict Oliver left the awards ceremony but soon after the speech so did Hart. Bret must have thought he deserved better credibility and should at least be in the top 5 of Oliver?s rankings, but I believe that Hart got the rightful spot on that list. . . .maybe he should have been dropped a few more spots for an antic like this.
Someone?s demeanor and character goes a long way, I personally never thought Hart was as good as the WWE portrayed him. Harts ego must have gotten the best of him and in my mind he will be known as The Biggest Baby there is, The Biggest Whiner there was, and The Biggest Controversial Star There ever will be!
Comments
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From 92tombstone92 on 7/11/08 10:47 AM
I completly agree with you he did have good matches but than again he didn't. He's mainly remembered for one match against HBK aka the 61:34 (around there) Iron Man match. Reminds me of Hulk Hogan he's mainly remembered for the feud with Taker and Taker carried him through that and the Match with Andre the Giant and Andre carried him through that. Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan were way to overrated for what they did.
From theminister on 7/11/08 3:59 PM
I agree that Bret Hart is not "The Best There Is, The Best There Was and The Best There Ever Will Be." It was his gimmick and it was a pretty cool catch phrase. That being said I think you guys are underestimating just how good Bret Hart was.
Bret was as good a wrestler as there was in the business during his hey day. Bret always told a great story in the ring. His feuds with Flair, Perfect, HBK, Backlund, Owen, Davey Boy, Austin, and so on are all great feuds. To say he's remembered for one match is doing the man a disservice. His classic in Wembly Stadium w/Davey Boy, the cage match with Owen and his WM match w/Austin are some of the best matches you will ever see. Plus his tag team feuds w/Anvil against the Bulldogs, Demolition, the Nasty Boys and The Rockers were great as well. He also was willing to help get guys over, Owen, HBK and Austin all got their biggest pushes working with Hart.
I don't think you can't hold his WCW days against him, the WCW had no idea how to use him. They were satisfied just getting him away from the WWE.
I will say, Bret Hart can be a whiner and does sometimes seem bitter. I believe that he didn't do business the right way at the end of his WWE run and that led to the "Screw Job." That being said, I also believe HBK never did business the right way with Hart. Hart jobbed at WM 12 so HBK could get his push but HBK NEVER returned the favor, pretending to be injured before WM13. Add on top of that the deaths of his brother, brother-in-law and one of his best friends and it's no wonder that Bret comes off as angry and bitter about the business.
But all that said he was STILL one of the top performers of his generation. I don't think he was "The Best There Is, The Best There Was and The Best There Ever Will Be" but he was ONE OF "The Best There Is, The Best There Was and The Best There Ever Will Be."
From FLCchampRUSH on 7/11/08 6:26 PM
Hi. Don't know if we've met or not, Buzz Killington, buzz killer... Bret Hart is a lot of things. Is he the best there ever will be? That's a question best left to history. Before 1994, he was the best wrestler to emerge from "The Dungeon" run by the legendary Stu Hart (I personally believe that Chris Benoit is the most technically sound wrestler to emerge from that training facility). Inside the ring, Bret was unmatched when it came to being a ring general (being able to have good matches, and making ANY OPPONENT look good while doing it), and the only other name I can think of on that level is Ric Flair. I too have seen the dvd "Best There Is..." and, though I'm not a salivating, piss on myself, superfan (much like my cousin is), I do respect the man for his accomplishments. He wasn't the most charismatic athlete, he wasn't the most interesting on the mic, but he NEVER phoned in a match, and he ALWAYS repected his fans. The Iron Man Match w/ HBK, was an absolute 5 star match in which BOTH men carried each other. Now, I agree with you on the way the Montreal job was handled, on both sides. Business is business, and both should've come to terms and held to them. Overall, his legacy is one that is truly HoF worthy (which he received), and though he may have character flaws, that is the nature of man.
From JamesP on 7/11/08 9:05 PM
"I completly agree with you he did have good matches but than again he didn't. He's mainly remembered for one match against HBK aka the 61:34 (around there) Iron Man match. Reminds me of Hulk Hogan he's mainly remembered for the feud with Taker and Taker carried him through that and the Match with Andre the Giant and Andre carried him through that. Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan were way to overrated for what they did."
Dude...you're an idiot. You actually think that the only thing Hogan will be remembered for is feuding with Undertaker? And that Bret will only be remembered for losing to HBK?
From codebreakery2j on 7/12/08 4:14 AM
Bret was a hell of a wrestler, but that's all he was, and there are guys that were/are better than him at that aswell. I'd put Bret in 4th as a technical wrestler (#3. Eddie Guerrero #2 Kurt Angle #1 Chris Benoit) and although he was charismatic in the ring, his mic skills lacked the flash of guys like HBK, Y2J, and The Rock among others. And technical wrestling was all he could really do, whereas guys like say, Jericho, can wrestler about as good and have other talents. Most people forget how good a wrestler Jericho is as not only a wrestler, but a high flyer. In my opinion, if you had a battle for Canadian supremecy between Benoit, Bret, Edge, and Jericho, Jericho's all around skills would win it for him, and then, he'd out talk them all afterwards. In my opinion, Jericho was the greatest wrestler to ever come out of Canada. *ducks and runs*