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Since we are talking about the 4 Horsemen...WOOOOOOOO!

by Petedaddydolla on 4/3/08 8:45 PM

Since we are on the topic of the Four Horsemen, and with Ric Flair's retirement this week; it only seems fitting that SOMEONE says it. Mr. Bergo and I were discussing this issue of the Horsemen and the various members that have been lucky enough to get a membership to this legendary stable. Of course the original members were the best, Flair, Blanchard, The Andersons and of course the groups "Peter Lawford",(If anyone is familiar with the Rat Pack that reference makes sense)JJ Dillon.
But there have been so many different variations of the group, it seems like at one point they were just putting anyone in there it seems. First after a rift between Ole and the rest of the guys(all over him missing a booked event to watch his son wrestle)led to him leaving and being replaced by Lex Luger. Luger gets kicked out and teams with Barry Windham to feud with the Horsemen. Windham turns on Luger and joins the Horsemen. Following me still? In that year of 1988 the Horsemen at one time held all 3 major titles: Flair had the World Title, Windham the US Title and Arn and Tully had the Tag Team Titles. Shortly thereafter Arn and Tully, JJ and Barry would all leave for WWF, leaving the group in ruins.
Then in 89' the group rode again with Flair, Tully, Arn and longtime rival Sting entering the fold. Sting would be kicked out for challenging Flair for the World Title and return to feuding with the group again. So to recap here is how the Horsemen stood in 1990 after the sale of Crockett Promotions to Ted Turner and being reintroduced as World Championship Wrestling: Manager: Ole Anderson Active Wrestlers: Ric Flair,Arn Anderson, Barry Windham and Sid Vicious. That line up was short lived as well though. In 1991 Flair and Sid left for WWF, Barry Windham would enter a singles feud with former Horsemen Lex Luger and Arn Anderson went on to tag team with Larry Zbyszko.
It would be until March 1993 before the group would ride again, with the returning Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Ole Anderson as the groups "advisor" and Paul Roma as the third and final member. These 3 Horsemen feuded with Austin,Pillman and another former member Barry Windham. This particular incarnation lasted until Roma turned on Arn Anderson and left to team with Paul Orndorff.
Fast forward to 1995 and Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Chris Benoit and the Loose Cannon Brian Pillman to reform the group once again. Still following, because this story has more plot twists than General Hospital(thats right, I referenced a soap opera). Shortly after he(Pillman)feuded with Kevin Sullivan and left for ECW, then ultimately WWF. Benoit and Sullivan then engaged in one of THE BEST FEUDS OF ALL TIME, and sadly in this case life DID imitate art.
Then in 1996 Steve "Mongo" McMichaels joined the group after turning on another football player(Kevin Greene)costing him a match against Flair. So the Horsemen quickly recruited Mongo to the group as the fourth member. Throughout 1997 internal bickering between Mongo and new member Jeff Jarrett led to Double J's quick departure from the group. He didn't leave empty handed though, he took Mongo's wife Deborah. Mongo got Jarrett's US Title from him to exact a small measure of revenge. After Jarrett left, Mr Perfect Curt Hennig would replace him, only to defect and join the nWo. Also in 1997 Arn Anderson would leave the group and retire due to injuries to his neck and back.
In 1998 Dean Malenko and Chris Benoit got Arn to talk Flair into reforming the group. This would be the final year of the legendary stable with it's members including: Manager Arn Anderson, active wrestlers Ric Flair, Steve McMichaels, Dean Malenko and Chris Benoit. 1999 rolled around and Mongo again left the group, this time for good. Malenko and Benoit left Flair and called him selfish, thusly ending the tumultuous ride of THE most legendary stable in wrestling history.
Now with that said, why not another ride? The WWE needs something that another run of the Four Horsemen would provide. I know having said that and with what I am about to say I am going to be HEAVILY CRITISISED. My new Horsemen rendition would go like this: Manager Arn Anderson, active wrestlers Ric Flair, Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Charlie Haas. Now I know your thinking Charlie Haas? But allow me to explain myself: he has a good amateur background, technical skills and toughness. He reminds me of a young Tully Blanchard honestly. So there it is, hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I did writing it.

Comments

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From bpapa on 4/3/08 9:58 PM

I actually made a blog last year about a WWE version of the Horsemen. Mainly I thought of it as a way to have a heel Chris Benoit feud with John Cena. Also in the group would have been Ric Flair, Chris Masters, and Shelton Benjamin.

http://www.wrestlingmarks.com/blogs/Who_else_could_ride_with_the_Horsemen_/26

With Flair retired and Benoit dead, I don't see the point in now reviving the Horsemen. In fact, every single major member of the Horsemen is retired or passed on, save for Sting, and he's in TNA.

If anything, I'd like to see a new version of Evolution. The original idea was that we had the past in Ric Flair, the present in Triple H, and the future in Batista and Randy Orton. At some point it might be cool to see Orton head up a new version of Evolution, skipping a slot for "the future" and keeping himself as the present, with a small group of young guys as the future (Kenny Dykstra as one, perhaps?).

From Petedaddydolla on 4/3/08 10:02 PM

Dykstra would be good, he is a talented kid who just needs that ONE good gimmick to get over with. I just hope he doesn't end up as another great young talent that WWE ends up screwing over(or he doesn't screw himself over).

From theone86 on 4/10/08 6:38 PM

First off, this was a good blog, but I almost skipped it completely. It's a pain reading huge walls of text. Could you please use spaces in between paragraphs like in my or Punkfan's blogs? I really only ask because the blog was good and I'd hate to think of it being skipped over because it's hard to read.

Couple of notes, Evolution was originally supposed to be a 4H revival, but with only Flair left they decided to rename it.

I don't see much of a need for another stable of main eventers right now. Big stables usually include some up and comers. Having main eventers badn together is a bad idea for a couple of reasons. One, it hurts their credibility. They have to rely on their competition to win? Two, it takes attention away from competition and puts it on the group. Example, revived DX. I would like to see a faction or two, though. I think Benjamin, Haas, and Burke would make a good stable. My other idea, Team OMEGA. Re-hire Joey Matthews and put him, Shannon Moore, and Gregory Helms in a stable. You could have them start out by fueding with the Hardyz. As for everyone else, Orton doesn't need a stable right now, and Edge has one. I think stable-mania sort of ran its course in WWE and we're in a period now where everyone is building off the success they had during that period.

From Petedaddydolla on 4/10/08 7:32 PM

Maybe twist the Omega idea with Matthews,Moore,Helms and Dykstra. But I still wish the WWE could come up with a good use for Charlie Haas, he is SO underrated. But seriously, does anyone else see a resemblance between him and a young Tully Blanchard?

From theone86 on 4/11/08 12:38 AM

I think Kenny needs a new push, and a new ring name. I don't know if a faction would be the best idea, though. I think he needs to be put in an environment where there aren't a bunch of other talented guys sitting around waiting for a call up. I thought that was what ECW was for, to make a place where talented people who weren't getting the same exposure as other wrestlers could showcae their skills, but apparantly I was wrong.

You won't ever hear me knock Charlie Haas. I've always liked him. For some reason, though, he never got past his association with Shelton. A lot of people think of him as that other guy that was in WGTT. People wonder why I complain about WWE so much, it's because people like Kenny and Haas wrestle on Heat if they're lucky while a guy acting like a retard is in the main event on Smackdown, a leprechaun's running around Raw, ECW is spending airtime having people beat down a Mikey Whipwreck wannabe from a bad joke of a promotion, and people like Haas, Benjamin, and Kenny just sit around doing nothing.

From Petedaddydolla on 4/11/08 8:33 AM

The stupid thing is that if WCW didn't go out of business(along with ECW)we wouldn't even be having this discussion. They(Dykstra, Haas and Benjamin)would have jumped ship to another fed if given the chance. All three of them are extremely talented workers in need of the right environment to showcase their abilities. Shelton has feuded with Triple H and HBK, and your telling me that the best story they can come up with for him is a Sisqo looking, Rock imitating gimmick. The reason I say Rock imitating is just because of the way he yells "Ain't no stoppin' me nowwwww" a la "If ya smell...what the Rock...is ....cookin." I am not crazy am I?