From cptcharisma1157 on 6/6/08 4:07 PM

overrated:
John Cena
Batista
Rey Mysterio
Eddie Guerrero -sorry, but at the end of his career, and following his death everyone acted like he was the greatest wrestler ever. When he was alive he had i think one (could be two) title reign that I didn't think he deserved. He was a good wrestler, but he I think suffers from a reverse-Benoit syndrom. Benoit's career isn't respected since his death, and Guerrero's is overly respected since his death.

underrated:
William Regal
Val Venis
Matt Hardy
Charlie Haas
Carlito
Elijah Burke

From theone86 on 6/6/08 4:45 PM

Personally, I think you have to base a decision like that on who is rating them in the first place. It seems to me that your definition of underrated is based on what tyupe of push they get, while I would define it more on fans' responses and comments. Most fans I hear, for example, couldn't think less of Bobby Lashley. While I thought he had some good skills and potential, I do think he was pushed too far too fast. I think fans focus more on the second part, and as such I would rank him as underrated.

Someone like Kane, on the other hand, I would rank as overrated. Yes, he's a good worker who rarely gets a decent push, but he's not the best worker around and he has a fairly simplistic character. I think he's always been over with fans because of his gimmick, and so many people want him to receive a larger push based on that. Therefore, overrated.

I think you're WAY wrong about Dusty Rhodes. I'd say that if you really think that you should see some of his stuff as NWA Champion.

I couldn't agree LESS about Rey Mysterio. I think WWE pushed him to the main event to fill the void Eddie left and that it was all too apparant, BUT I think a lot of people hold that against Rey unfairly. Rey Mysterio is one of the most entertaining wrestlers I have ever seen. You can go through every promotion he's been in, I haven't seen too many of his matches I haven't liked. As for him being main event material, I think he's done a great job of working programs with Chavo, Booker, Edge, Angle, and Orton. His size really doesn't become apparant until he starts facing people like Big Show.

Jake the Snake I feel was mid-high card material, and that's exactly where he was for most of his career. He was an Intercontinental contender, and he sometimes wrestled in high card events like King of the Ring. I think he was a great worker, and he deserved his spot.

King Kong Bundy was from a different era of wrestling. He was a big man, period. He wasn't a great worker, but he wasn't a bad worker, and he never really got completely over in WWE.

Umaga has good skills and can work when he needs to. I think his character calls for a lack of working in some instances, which I dislike. I think he's a mid-card type of guy, and that's exactly where he's been for most of his career.

Do you mean Jerry Lynn? If so I think you're WAY off. Have you seen this guy? Watch his stuff against RVD, or AJ Styles. This guy is CRAZY cool.

Could not agree less about Danielson, I just do not see any justification for it.

Rhino, I think he was going to get his run at the top in ECW right before it folded. I think he had the dumb luck of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think WWE definitely did less with them then they should have. As for TNA, they gave him his run, however short. I think Rhino is past his main event days, sadly. There's just no room for him in TNA's main event. Maybe if there were another small promotion that needed a big name champ, but not in one of the big promotions.

I think Jeff is both under and over rated. His fans love him and want to see him do so many cool spots, and his detractors call him a spot monkey. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. He's not a horrible worker, and I think he's proved that since being back. He utilizes a lot of spots, but he strings them together in the match with the skill of a decent worker. That being said, I'm still skeptical if a style like his can thrive in the main event, especially the WWE main event.

I'm not going to argue about Snuka.

Yokozuna wrestled a big man style. Frankly, I was never a fan of it. I don't think he was the best worker around, and I think a lot of people celebrate him more than he deserves.

I think DDP had the misfortune of being one of the many WCW wrestlers who had their reputation permantly tarnished with a bad WWE gimmick. You would never have seen him appear on an underrated list until he started pulling jobs in WWE, and sadly I'd have to agree now. It's not because he doesn't have fans, it's because his only exposure to the next generation of wrestling fans was as a mid-carder.

I think a lot of people love Owen and give him the respect he deserves. As for his push, he was making his way up the card when he died. Possibly a little too slow, but he was doing it. He did have some problems backstage, and people sometimes called him out for not agreeing to do certain angles, but I agree that shouldn't have held him back like it did.

I am not the biggest fan of Davey Boy's post-Bulldogs work. As a tag team they could work a classic match. As a singles wrestler, he didn't have the best workrate. I was watching one of his matches against Bret on the Bret Hart DVD and his working reminded me of John Cena. I think he deserved his place on the mid-card.

Bam Bam was a great worker, and he got good pushes. He was a member of the Triple Threat, and had a decent push in WCW. I think he was another victim of the WWE buyout, suddenly having the choice to be a jobber in WWE or to fade into obscurity while still in your prime.

I can not stand Warrior. As a wrestler he couldn't work worth a damn. As a person, he's a hateful, self-righteous biggot. I honestly wish he had never been given any exposure at all.

From jeff on 6/6/08 5:08 PM

To me Jeff Hardy is like what theone86 said both under and overrated. Does Jeff Hardy deserve to be in the main event? I really don't know because when I saw his match with Randy Orton at the Royal Rumble and it shows that Jeff Hardy really doesn't look like he's main event material. The matches Jeff Hardy had with Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho were both excellent matches and shows that Jeff Hardy does deserve to be in the main event. I think that in order to be in the main event Jeff Hardy has to adjust to every style instead of just one. Jeff has better matches with wrestlers that have a similar style to him. That needs to change.

Overrated
John Cena
Randy Orton
The Great Khali (he clearly can't wrestle yet he became a world champion)

Underrated
Elijah Burke
Jimmy Wang Yang
Shelton Benjamin
Charlie Haas
Paul London
Brian Kendrick
Matt Hardy
Jamie Noble

From FLCchampRUSH on 6/6/08 9:16 PM

Hell, I could do this all day! Over and underrated wrestlers?!?

Overrated:
*Warrior (God, as a kid, I thought he was the greatest! Then I started getting pubic hair and cynnical...)
*JBL (I'm so surprised that no one named him yet)
*Christian/ Christian Cage (I just don't think he's there)
*Tomko (Maybe I need to see his work from Japan, but stateside, he SUCKS)
*Matt Morgan (Do you really need an explanation?)
*John Cena (I put that here ONLY because I do like technical skills... otherwise, the guy's entertaining to me)
*Tommy Dreamer (I admire his heart, but, that's about it.)

(That's enough for that list... for now)

Underrated:
*John Morrison (Yeah, he tops my list.)
* Petey Williams (Using him as "Little Poppa Pump"? Really?!?)
*Shelton Benjamin (Money in the Bank match, Wrestlemania 21[I think?]. 'Nuff said.)
*Samoa Joe (Yes! TNA World Champ Samoa Joe is underrated.)
*Kaz (So much takent, not much pushing.)
*CM Punk (Money in the bank winner, talented wrestler, nothing [including his ECW title run] happens... yet.)
*ODB (The only woman on the list, and too good for TNA, too "regular" for WWE)

From FLCchampRUSH on 6/6/08 9:38 PM

Hell, I could do this all day! Over and underrated wrestlers?!?

Overrated:
*Warrior (God, as a kid, I thought he was the greatest! Then I started getting pubic hair and cynnical...)
*JBL (I'm so surprised that no one named him yet)
*Christian/ Christian Cage (I just don't think he's there)
*Tomko (Maybe I need to see his work from Japan, but stateside, he SUCKS)
*Matt Morgan (Do you really need an explanation?)
*John Cena (I put that here ONLY because I do like technical skills... otherwise, the guy's entertaining to me)
*Tommy Dreamer (I admire his heart, but, that's about it.)
*Melina (Yeah, she's hot, but, other than the splits-under-the-rope entrance, not enough there for me.)

(That's enough for that list... for now)

Underrated:
*John Morrison (Yeah, he tops my list.)
* Petey Williams (Using him as "Little Poppa Pump"? Really?!?)
*Shelton Benjamin (Money in the Bank match, Wrestlemania 21[I think?]. 'Nuff said.)
*Samoa Joe (Yes! TNA World Champ Samoa Joe is underrated.)
*Kaz (So much takent, not much pushing.)
*CM Punk (Money in the bank winner, talented wrestler, nothing [including his ECW title run] happens... yet.)
*ODB (Too good for TNA, too "regular" for WWE.)
*Victoria (It's a shame. She's REALLY good, and REALLY under-utilized.)
*Jazz ( Dominant. Period.)

From damn123 on 6/6/08 10:59 PM

underrated
edge
me

From willierko on 6/7/08 3:44 PM

Overrated

Chris Hero
Hulk Hogan
Kane
Jeff Jarrett
Triple H
Petey Williams
Adam Pearce
Warrior
Batista
Shelton Benjamin


Underrated
CM Punk
John Morrison
Jimmy Yang
Paul London
John Morrison
Brian Kendrick
Tomko
Mike Quackenbush
Elijah Burke
Randy Orton


The fact that you said Warrior should have been pushed more and saying Danielson is overrated makes me cringe

From DoubleL on 6/7/08 3:50 PM

Overratted:
John Cena (he's just annoying to watch and it sucks seeing
someone like that always getting a push)

The Great Kahli (horrible entertainer, completely usless
in the ring and can't cut a promo for
shit but yet made world champion????)

Bobby Lashley (the man looks like an over grown Gerber
baby! he cuts horrible promos and lacks
in the ring)

Chavo Guerro (surprised no one has said him yet. . . .
no where near as good as his uncle and
never will be.)

Ultimate Warrior (no comment. . . .)

Mark Henry (the man is just horrible in the ring and
his matches are boring)

Underrated:

Shelton Benjamin
Trevor Murdoch
Lance Cade
Umaga
Matt Hardy
MVP

From damn123 on 6/7/08 9:58 PM

whos chris hero

From damn123 on 6/7/08 9:58 PM

whos chris hero

From DaneBramage on 6/7/08 11:12 PM

Chris Hero is big in the indies. He made his name in IWA-MS and as part of the Kings of Wrestling in CHIKARA, and is now the main member of Sweet n' Sour Inc in Ring of Honor.

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I'm doing my lists by fans perceptions of wrestlers, not how highly they are pushed.

OVERRATED

Shawn Michaels
Rey Mysterio Jr.
Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Shelton Benjamin
Kane
Bobby Lashley

UNDERRATED

A-Train/Prince Albert
RelliK/Johnny 'The Bull' Stamboli
Team 3D
Billy Kidman
Shannon Moore
The Miz
John Morrison
John Cena (omgeee, 5 moveZ!!!1!!!)

From willierko on 6/8/08 2:12 AM

While were at it Lets add Roderick Strong to the underrated and add Sting to the overrated

From 92tombstone92 on 6/8/08 11:19 AM

Overrated:
Cena
Batista
Orton
Hornswoggle
Finlay

i say Hornswoggle and Finlay when they had that massive pointless storyline

Underrated
Dreamer
Colin Delany
Mike Knox
Shannon Moore
Jimmy Wang Yang
London
Kendrick

From bpapa on 6/8/08 12:25 PM

As theone says, it depends on if you go by the Wrestling Observer awards definition of overrated (push vs. ability) or just those that are talked about a lot by smart marks. Since you mention push though I guess you're going by the WO definition. Here's my reaction to each that guy that you said was overrated and if I agree -

John Cena - Definitely not. I don't think Cena's been as good this year as he was last year, but part of that is because the spotlight is largely off of him. And the fact is, love him or hate him, Cena draws money and is one of the few guys in the WWE that seems capable of shouldering the burden of being a top guy. For that, it's hard to say he's over pushed, since he's just what they need.

Batista - In a way this is true, although I think Batista has become a lot better as a whole the past couple of years, he still doesn't have the ability of many in his spot. But the fact is that he is on the "B" brand, so it's not as big of a deal, and also for the past year and a half now he has largely not pushed as SD's top guy and instead plays third wheel to Undertaker and Edge.

Bobby Lashley - He's gone now so it's not relevant, but yes, he was definitely overpushed in the sense that he was in the big money match at WrestleMania 23 but was nowheres near "good enough" for that spot. In his final months in the WWE he got better (I thought Cena vs. Lashley was a great match, for example, as were a lot of the ECW title matches against Vince and Umaga), but he's apparently done now anyway.

Dusty Rhodes - The greatest babyface performer of all time. Definitely not overrated.

Umaga - Umaga is basically a glorified jobber, and he has been for the past 18 months now. YET, he still is over as hell BECAUSE HE IS FRIKKIN AWESOME at what he is supposed to do - be a monster heel. If anything this guy should be topping a "most underrated" list.

Rey Mysterio - Well, he's one of the best workers of all time so a lot of the smart marks will disagree. He has been a focus in WWE now for the past several years, but it makes sense because he is such a huge draw for the Hispanic fans - especially important since the death of Eddie Gurrero. It makes sense for WWE to have him as such a big part of their product because he is very important for business.

Jake "The Snake" Roberts - Again, another guy who was underrated, as he was one of the best performers of his era yet never won the WWE title because things moved slower in that time and Hogan was always on top. In terms of in-ring psychology Jake was one of the best ever, and also was one of the best promo men ever.

King Kong Bundy - I guess you could make a case here, since the only reason Bundy was around was to be fed to Hogan. But to be honest, this guy is seen as not much more than a footnote in wrestling history - I think the only thing most people remember are his appearances at the first three WrestleManias (each cool in a unique way) and the angles leading up to them. For whatever reason Bundy gets no love from WWE today.

Terry Lynn - Jerry Lynn? I do kind of agree here though, I think the RVD/Lynn feud was vastly overrated, but that's just more a personal tastes thing.

Bryan Danielson - The guy is much, much better than everybody else in ROH and really should have come to WWE a year ago. I can't see how that is overrated.

From SnoHo24 on 6/8/08 9:19 PM

Wow I can't believe I wrote Terry Lynn. It was Jerry Lynn, I meant (Major menatl block moment). I don't know. I guess he's not really "overrated", he's just never struck me as the kind of wrestler who could be pushed as far as he was.