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Petedaddydolla
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Jon Cena ......Come on, just read it!
by Petedaddydolla on 2/24/08 11:54 AM
I haven't posted a blog in a long time, I have just been going around and making "War and Peace" length comments on which ever blogs that arrouse my ire. But I finally have enough ammo to load up the gun and pull the trigger so here it goes.
I have been a life long fan of Professional Wrestling, not just the in-ring stuff but the sheer pagentry of it all. The sights and sounds, the promos, the storylines; all of it put together. There have been many wrestlers that have come and gone that I have followed throughout their stay in wrestling's limelight. All the way back to the days of the Hulkster to the arrival of the Undertaker in WWE to Scott Hall and the Original Horsemen.
But one individual who remains enigmatic to me is Jon Cena. He is not enigmatic in the traditional sense of the word, but I can't for the life of me figure out why people hate him so much. Could it be that people boo him because they are jealous? Of what you may ask? His looks, his physique(Hell I am man enough to say I am jealous of his build)! Could it be because your wife or girlfriend incessantly makes comments about how hot he is? I know mine does, Cena to her is Beth Phoenix to me! Or could it be that he got a MAMMOTH push that was unlikely for someone as unproven as he?
People let the boos rain down when he used to come to the ring with a microphone and rapped during his whole entrance. I thought it was funny because he was like a stockier Markey Mark at the time! When Lesnar decided to walk out of the WWE and Cena had to pick up the feud with the Big Show(who stayed 1 month longer on 2 bad knees to put Cena over)was to the best of my recollection the start of CenaMania!
My most vivid memory has to be from Wrestlemania 23 which I was lucky enough to attend. The enourmous amount of energy that he and HBK had to expend during that match was incredible. I have NEVER......EEEEEEEEEEEVER heard or felt anything like it. The crowd would cheer Cena one moment and boo him the next. He hit Michaels and the crowd boos, HBK hit Cena and they cheered. Back and forth, back and forth the pendulum swings during the course of a match. When Cena came out on top it was such a cresendo it was deafening! For me the only close second memory of this memory had to be at a Halloween edition of Smackdown that I attended in Grand Rapids, Michigan. It was during the early stages of the Big Show/Cena feud. Cena FU'd Big Show through the announce table.....I was speechless.
You may think that this is a "gush" or "fluff piece" from someone who seems like a "Cena Mark" as I have heard that term thrown around quite frequently on this site and many others. But before you judge me or the merits of my fan-hood, consider the fact that I am just like anyone else who tunes in on a weekly basis. I am a fan first and a critic second. I know that there are much more talented wrestlers on the WWE roster that don't get the respect and the push that they may deserve. I know some people are going to read my work here and rip me for what I have said, but I would be naive' if I didn't expect it.
For me it all boils down to one thing; no it boils down to one word for me: R-E-S-P-C-T. At the risk of sounding a bit cliche' I have the utmost respect for Cena, and not only him but for ALMOST all of the wrestlers who put their bodies on the line some 275 or more days a year. Forsaking their personal lives and their families to entertain US, the fans.
So that is it, I'm done. I made my case and it's how I feel and it isn't going to change. So let the Cena hate fest' 2008 begin!


Comments
(45 total)
From Goldberg619 on 2/24/08 1:06 PM
you spelled John wrong.
haha
From willierko on 2/24/08 1:16 PM
Great blog Pete, I think now people boo cena as a way to rebel against what the wwe stands for. They can choose to boo anyone who is getting a huge push. They would do that to triple H but some actually beleive his hype and think Hunter the Conqueror is actually the greatest wrestler living ! PFFFT. Myn ass he is. The point is now I think some fans are truly mad that more talented wrestlers like the Paul London's, Like the Jimmy Yang's, Like the Charlie Haas's are just not being used to their potential. So they choose to target someone that they feel does not deserve their spot I.e John Cena.
From Petedaddydolla on 2/24/08 1:40 PM
Ok Gillberg619...Just kidding....;) Other than the obvious grammatical insufficiencies on the spelling of the name "Jon" as opposed to "John" my point was clear, right? I don't disagree when it comes to talent level Jimmy Yang, Haas and London are FAR MORE TALENTED with in-ring skills. But what about the X Factor(And no, I don't mean Albert,X Pac and Justin Credible)of charisma and the "it" factor? Cena has "it", whatever it is!
From willierko on 2/24/08 1:56 PM
That is what people seem to forget sometimes, the ability to draw and sell. people forget that the WWE is all about business first. So when Vince looks at the sales of wrestler's merchandise and sees that Carlito only sold 6 shirts at this house show but at the same house show cena and Triple H sold 20 shirts each he knows he is doing something right.
From theminister on 2/24/08 2:00 PM
I agree Pete. I've been a defender of Cena since joining this website and I too am baffled as to why so many people hate him.
People speak of his lack of moves, well others fall into the same boat (Batista for example) yet they do not draw the heat Cena does.
Some say he didn't deserve his push. Well there have been lots of guys who didn't deserve their push. Anyone remember Brock Lesnar?
Cena has gained my respect mostly because I think he has improved as a performer both in and out of the ring. I know others disagree but I don't care. The fact is Cena is a better performer now than when he won the belt 3 years ago.
As you said, no matter what people say or think about him, Cena has the "it" factor that is needed to be the top guy in a company. The "it" factor gets the girls to squeal, the little kids to go wild and the smarks to hate. As long as Cena keeps doing that, he will be the Top Guy in the WWE.
From Petedaddydolla on 2/24/08 2:02 PM
AMEN! I have to ask about the "SMARKS", is that Brian Pillman-speak for "smart marks"? Because if it is, sheer genius my friend!
From Goldberg619 on 2/24/08 2:26 PM
Petey i was just messing with you when i corrected your spelling.
And yes i agree with you...John Cena is the man.
From JamesP on 2/24/08 3:52 PM
I don't care how you spin it - a babyface as your top guy getting booed is NOT a good thing. That doesn't mean he's doing something right, it means he's doing something WRONG. There's no "it" factor involved.
From davecrave7 on 2/24/08 3:52 PM
Your blog had no facts in it, just opinion. The fact is that John Cena is a bad wrestler, and if you want my facts, read the countless other blogs where myself and others have stated it.
From Petedaddydolla on 2/24/08 5:02 PM
So it's not a fact that he FU'D the Big Show through a table on Smackdown, or that he and Shawn Michaels put on a phenomenal match at Wrestlemania 23. Also is it not a fact that Mr. Cena spent years to hone his craft and develop one of the best physiques in wrestling without steroids? So don't tell me that I have NO FACTS in my blog JUST BECAUSE you say so. So I am supposed to now read all the anti-Cena blogs and say "Wow, I was wrong, davecrave7 was right". Everything that everyone else said against Cena was right and I am wrong. I think the funniest FACT about the whole situation is that Cena isn't even my favorite wrestler! But I respect him for doing what I WISH that I could do half as well. The point of my blog was to get this kind of reaction from people so let me pose this quandary to the kids of the class....So in your OPINIONS, is J-O-H-N(I added the "H" for Goldberg619! I digress, is John Cena a worse wrestler than JBL? I say this because to me, JBL has declined rapidly and his comeback is a bigger joke than Candice Michelles....well not THAT much of a joke. That bitch is worthless as....I will save that for another time.
From willierko on 2/24/08 5:08 PM
dave like i have said its still your opinion when it comes to cena, not a fact.
From JamesP on 2/24/08 5:08 PM
Being able to lift a 500 pound wrestler DOES NOT make you a good wrestler. And Cena was carried at WrestleMania 23.
From willierko on 2/24/08 5:35 PM
I think we can all agree on one thing, Cena should not hold the title for a while, he does not need it, he can not get any more over, it would not succeed anything and other people deserve their shot, hopefully vince can see this very clearly
From davecrave7 on 2/24/08 6:52 PM
this whole site is based on "opinoin". There is no fact involved Willierko. when i say fact, i mean my opinion. There is no way i can open your eyes to see how john cena is not a good wrestler (in my opinoin).
From Petedaddydolla on 2/24/08 6:55 PM
I never said he should hold the WWE right now, Jeff Hardy should have the belt around his waist in my opinion. He just needs to learn how to shoot a better promo. He's already over enough to hold the belt other than that. The main point of my piece was that I respect the man for his accomplishments, and I pretty much wonder how it's hard for people to think in those terms.
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/24/08 9:18 PM
I'm tired of this argument, I remember comprising a list of thirty reasons why i can't stand Cena so read that, and then maybe "for the life of you" you'll understand.
And it's r-e-s-p-E-c-t not "R-E-S-P-C-T" and that's something that I can't, I repeat can Nawt have for Cena.
From theminister on 2/25/08 2:33 PM
Funny how when davecrave gives his opinion it's fine but petedaddydolla's blog must use facts.
JamesP there's an old saying that goes, "Any publicity is good publicity." Wrestling is about reaction and Cena gets more reaction than anyone in the business right now. Just look at this site. There are more Cena blogs than any other topic. Even blogs that have nothing to do with Cena end up talking about Cena. Anyway you cut it, Cena getting a reaction is a good thing for the WWE. It sells PPV's, DVDs, T-shirts and gets ratings. Face or heel, who cares? Cena is over with the fans because he is simultaneously the most popular and most hated superstar in wrestling today. The WWE doesn't care if you pay to see him win or pay to see him lose, as long as you pay!!!
From Petedaddydolla on 2/25/08 2:57 PM
So true about the whole fact versus opinion here, I thought I was sitting in front of a Congressional Committee for a second there!
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/25/08 4:00 PM
yea... but u guys are confusing the idea of loving to hate somebody, with the idea of just hating someone. i hate Cena so much that i wouldn't even pay to see him lose, because i just dont want to see him. i turn off raw when he's on, because even if he's going to lose i can't stand the sight of him. i've actually decided not to attend the last two raw events that have come to hershey, just because i don't want to be stuck watching him.
Nobody loves to hate Cena. Somebody you love to hate is a heel who is good at his job, not a face who is terrible at it. And the reason that there is so much discussion about Cena is not that we are entertained by him, but because this is the only way we can express how much we want him off tv.
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/25/08 4:04 PM
And I have yet to see any facts supporting Cena, I've only seen facts opposing Cena.
Here is an example of a classic Cena argument:
Arguments against Cena:
1) WWE makes more money without him- fact
2) he can't wrestle- fact
3) he can't work as a face, because millions of people hate him- fact
4) his gimmick makes no sence- fact
5) WWE is trying to shove him down our throat to make him the next Austin/Rock- fact
6) he's a Vince McMahon ass kisser- fact
7) 90% of his fanbase = little kids + annoying girls- fact
8) etc.
9) etc.
10) etc.
Arguments for Cena
1) I don't see why everybody hates him so much...
>> I JUST TOLD YOU WHY EVERBODY HATE HIM, TRY LISTENNING TO THE ARGUMENT IDIOT!!!
From SRHking on 2/25/08 4:44 PM
cptcharisma1157 your the idiot. Half of what you said(he's a Vince McMahon ass kisser, he can't wrestle,he can't work as a face, because millions of people hate him) isnt fact, its your opinion
From JamesP on 2/25/08 5:09 PM
Okay, he's a bad wrestler is opinion, but it's a FACT that he's a horrible face, because if half the crowd hates you, you're doing something wrong. It's also a fact that he's a kiss-ass.
From JamesP on 2/25/08 5:12 PM
Oh, and he's no less of a kiss-ass than HHH, since I know that you were probably going to use deflection tactics rather than defend the point.
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/25/08 6:49 PM
ok, i just gave 7 facts against Cena, and like always, you picked the ones that could almost be considered an opinion and used them to despute my entire argument... but no, those are all facts millions of people DO hate him, he can't wrestle (there is no way that you can validate that he is), and yes he is a vince ass kicker as reported by every wrestling website on the net.
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/25/08 7:04 PM
can* not is
From Treilond on 2/25/08 7:19 PM
I love John Cena and I"m neither a girl or child
From DaneBramage on 2/25/08 7:31 PM
I like John Cena, I also am neither a girl nor a child.
From theone86 on 2/25/08 8:00 PM
I disagree with your mentality Pete. I'm not saying I don't respect Cena for going on long road trips, working out a ton, and taking bumps (and by the way, it's been a while since I've seen him take a huge bump). I'm saying I dislike his ringwork, and I'm not going to sing his praises simply because he has a tough job. Respect should not deflect critique. If it does, I'd argue the level of respect. If you respect someone you should demand a lot of them because you want to see their best.
Again, we're not arguing opinion. You can like Cena's performance, but that does not make it a good performance. The thing I will never get is why WWE doesn't say, "OK, these smarks dislike your ring performance. If you just put some more effort into selling and pacing you could have you kiddie mark fanbase AND the smark fanbase." You want facts? His ring performance sucks. He CANNOT sell. You can ask most wrestlers, his selling sucks. And his pacing is horrible. For a company that goes around accusing other promotions of having spotfests with no story, it's pretty hypocritical to have someone that bases his ENTIRE performance on THE SAME spots as your top babyface. And I know it's been said already, but it's pathetic when your top babyface is getting booed in matches against heels.
As for comparing him to Brock Lesnar, that is not a fair comparison at all. I know he got some bad pushes, but he always put on great matches. Say what you will, but that guy could chain wrestle with the best of them. He knew how to work over an opponent, he knew pacing, and he sold ten times better than John Cena ever has. Not to mention, when he got over he kept his opponent's momentum in tact, something that Cena NEVER does.
And Comparing him to Batista, that's not such a huge compliment. Batista has some of the worst mechanics I've ever seen. Psycho Sid moved better in the ring, and that's saying something. Batista CANNOT sell. That being said, Batista has shown more improvement recently than Cena has in his entire WWE career. Batista has learned how to work a match, tone down his energy until the right moment, and how to keep his opponent over. I never thought I'd be defending Batista over anyone, even Cena, but Batista has shown some initiative, and Cena seems content to put on the same crap week after week.
And even if his merchandise sales are high, does that mean he can't imporve his ring skills? Does that mean he can't help other people to stay over so that when the other shoe drops the company isn't going to be screwed like it was when Hogan left? Is it going to hurt his merchandise sales to have a better workrate, or to sell better? Is everyone going to suddenly stop watching if he loses a single match cleanly, if someone else is over for a change, or if, god forbid, he loses the Title? No. I do not get why people act like he is so integral to the company or why they defend him so vehemently simply because he has good sales. So what, this is wrestling, learn to wrestle or get the hell out.
From JamesP on 2/25/08 8:07 PM
I respect John Cena's obvious dedication to the business and how he isn't an insecure jackass outside the ring. What I can't respect is his in-ring work.
From JamesP on 2/25/08 8:23 PM
I agree. While you can like his performances, they suck. He can't put a match together. Say what you will about HHH and HBK doing the same moves every week, but at least they don't work the same damn match. And not only that, but Cena not holding the title is BETTER for the success of the company. Back when Edge won the belt in early 2006, Raw got it's highest ratings in 4 years and the Royal Rumble had a good buyrate compared to the previous year, and the success has been unmatched ever since. When he won it again later in the year, the atings went up again. Just because Cena makes money doesn't mean he should be content with half-assing his matches. And did anybody else noticed that bothced inside cradle at No Way Out? How the fuck do you mess that move up?
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/25/08 9:56 PM
I have no problem with the true life john cena... from what i hear he is a very hard worker, but im never going to be able to say that he is good at what he does unless he improves drastically.
From theone86 on 2/26/08 12:22 AM
"And did anybody else noticed that bothced inside cradle at No Way Out?"
Yes, thank you!!! I'm not so sure he was even going for an inside cradle. I think he just ended up falling on Orton and then J.R. called it an inside cradle.
From davecrave7 on 2/26/08 7:09 PM
He does the same ending, you dont have to believe me just watch his last matches ever since he has been back. Even on RAW this week in the tag match it was ... shoulder block,(and he look awkward when he does it too, especially his "cross body" off the turn buckle) shoulder block, modified suplex thing, 5 knuckle shuffle, FU.
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/26/08 7:18 PM
exactly, he's got one series of moves....
it's like on a video game when jericho's finisher is one-handed bulldog imediately followed by the lionsault, and hogan's is a big boot immediately followed by the leg drop.. all of Cena's moves could be considered one fluent move in a video game, because he never does them out of order: shoulderblock-shoulderblock-shoulderblock-protobomb-5knuckleshuffle-fu-stfu...
that might not have made sense the way i typed it, but hopefully u've played some wrestling video game and u know what im talking about
From JamesP on 2/26/08 7:33 PM
Yes, in Day Of Reckoning 2, Hulk Hogan's finishing move is the entire Hulk Up sequence. You grap your opponent, and then your opponent goes for the punch, Hogan blocks it, points at his opponent, irish whips him, and gets the Big Boot and Legdrop.
From Treilond on 2/28/08 5:04 PM
Shut the fuck up with that move bullshit, When John Cena does the Protoplex into the Five Nuckle Shuffle, it is the equivalent to the Spine Buster into the People's Elbow, or when Triple H misses two clotheslines into the High Knee, after John does the Five Nuckle Shuffle, when he goes for the FU or StFu they typically reverse it, so SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB BASTARDS.
From JamesP on 2/28/08 6:20 PM
John Cena works the SAME EXACT match. While someone like HHH or HBK will work in their usual shit every match, they at least have different matches with people.
From cptcharisma1157 on 2/28/08 9:33 PM
Treilond, ur full of shit their.... he doesn't do a protoplex into a five knuckle shuffle. that's called a set-up and that would be acceptable.
what he does is a shoulderblock followed by a shoulder block followed by shoulder block followed by a protobomb followed by a 5 knuckle shuffle followed by an fu followed by an stfu... every fucking time. That's his move set too.
With the exception of what I just said, all he does is a bad fisherman suplex and a Cicilian Slice.. That's it.
From Petedaddydolla on 3/25/08 2:08 PM
*sniffles* I hate John Cena, *sniffles* I am so tired to him being in the main event...*shedding a tear* Boo FUCKING Hoo!
From damn123 on 3/25/08 8:44 PM
i will never be the same againn!!!!!!!
From SRHking on 3/26/08 4:53 PM
john cena sucks because he beat my favorite wrestler! lol, what a reason
From JamesP on 3/26/08 5:02 PM
How random...
From Petedaddydolla on 3/26/08 7:45 PM
I get the last word here...or in this case word(s)...
From SRHking on 3/26/08 7:52 PM
no u dont
From Petedaddydolla on 3/26/08 11:35 PM
Yes I do