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I Hate _______ Because........ it's the COOL thing to do...
by Petedaddydolla on 5/11/08 10:23 AM
Everyone seems to "pick sides" when it comes to what promotion they choose to watch. With the WWE seemingly in the midst of a slump when it comes to the fresh, cutting edge ideas and story lines that we have come to expect from them. But if you look deeper into the issue of originality the whole WWF ATTITUDE ERA was admittedly a rip off from the REAL ECW's old story lines. Just watch ECW on Sci-Fi Tuesday nights' and you will see a young man named Colin Delaney who's plight is somewhat reminiscent of another former jobber/ring crew member named Mikey Whipwreck. ECW paired him with Cactus Jack and did a story line with him being the "Ultimate Underdog". Delaney was paired with Tommy Dreamer to use the same loose story as back in the 90's.
People hate the WWE for this among many other things nowadays. Especially people on websites like this one, where bloggers(myself not EXCLUDED)have the free forum to write WHATEVER we want about these different companies and promotions. The most common is too just bash the hell out of individual performers, like John Cena for example. Just look back at my "John Cena...Come on,just read it!" blog from February of this year. Watch old Raw episodes with Cena matches where half the crowd cheers him and the other half boos him. Why do people boo Cena? Due to the fact that he is a heel? Nope. Is it because he is an asshole in the locker room and to the fans? Not even close. No, the people boo John Cena simply because it was the COOL thing to do at the time.
John Cena is simply a victim of his own success. The WWE saw a good looking, well built, microphone savvy and marketable young wrestler and they jumped on it. Then the internet fans chime in with their chants of "Cena only has five moves", "Cena can't wrestle", blah blah blah. So your telling me that Hulk Hogan was a GREAT TECHNICAL WRESTLER? Hell, Verne Gagne was quoted once as saying that his dead grandmother could execute the leg drop better than Hogan could.
I attended Wrestlemania 23 at Detroit's Ford Field, and I thoroughly enjoyed the event(except for the diva match). Cena and HBK had an incredible match that the crowd went nuts for. But if you listen to the people on this site, hell Cena wasn't even involved in the match. HBK carried the match as well as the entire feud. Give me a break, stop being band wagon jumpers and formulate your OWN opinions.
The other side of the coin you have TNA wrestling, who would encourage you to "Cross The Line". With their Sacrifice Pay Per View airing tonight everyone has piled on like a free ride during rush hour. The buzz I am hearing is
"Too many gimmick matches", what about WWE's Punjabi Prison Match? You can't tell me that the Deuces Wild Tournament is a BAD IDEA. It is innovative and cool to see unlikely partners forced to work together, especially in a wrestling ring. Sting and James Storm are a perfect example of this point. They are feuding and now have to work together to try to win the tag titles. Will it work or will they inevitably
implode into themselves? Only the bookers know....LOL!
So don't hate on TNA and say they have too many gimmick
matches and blah blah blah. Just watch(or don't)Sacrifice and judge for yourself how these "gimmick" matches shape up and turn out. As for including other promotions in this discussion, because I know there are people out there who are going to comment and say "You didn't even mention Ring of Honor!" Let me tell you why I didn't mention the aforementioned ROH, because I haven't seen that much of it. What I have seen has the production value of Rob Black's XPW. I am not insulting the athletes there, it's just that I
haven't seen enough to really judge them yet.
Hell I usually catch a lot of hell when I tell people
that two of my favorite tag teams of all time are Kronik and The Outsiders. I get the "Nash and Hall were lazy whiners",
"Kronik couldn't wrestle". You know what I say to that? That's my opinion, and if you don't like it....SORRY BOUT YOUR DAMN LUCK! LOL
Comments
(8 total)
From JamesP on 5/11/08 11:47 AM
I agree with you for the most part. However, most Cea hater, myself included, hate Hulk Hogan and domn't see his appeal. Hell, the people who turned to ECW in the mid 90's and hate Cena now watched it because they were tired of crap like Hulk Hogan.
From JamesP on 5/11/08 11:54 AM
And I agree about h Deuces Wild concept. You have to be a complete retard to be confused by the rules, and the random pairing concept is interesting because certain people who don't like each other might team together, and it'll be interesting to see if they either put aside their differences or self-destruct. And I've heard people complaining about the pairins not being random enough and that they-just-so happened to pair James Storm and Sting. And these were the same people complining about the Feast Or Fired segment being too random. This is wrestling, it's driven by storylines, and in certain areas you have to find ways to stir storylines up, even if te pairings aren't all that random.
From DaneBramage on 5/11/08 2:54 PM
I understand the rules of the Deuces Wild tournament, and I still find it stupid. The idea of random wrestlers being paired together, and then giving byes to a further round of the competition is my problem with it. If they were in from the start I'd find it okay, but giving them a higher ranking when they've done nothing to earn it just seems stupid to me.
And this isn't really an agreement or disagreement, just an observation, but the idea of random partners isn't innovative. WCW did this seemingly every year with the Lethal Lottery tournaments. And the 'wacky-mismatched-tag-team-partners-who-hate-each-other' storyline has been so overdone in recent years.
From Petedaddydolla on 5/11/08 7:15 PM
To JamesP: Hey you know what man, it's nice to finally AGREE on something isn't it? LOL! Takes less energy behind the keyboard,eh? All of your points were very good and hit directly on the head. I think the only thing that we can really disagree on is the Cena issue. But what you said about Hogan/Cena kind of comparison, then Hogan making people turn to ECW I can agree with.
DaneBramage: but if they aren't going to fully utilize the tag team division a la' WWE(Raw specifically)shouldn't they do something to shake up the title picture? I see where you are coming from with the WCW Lethal Lottery comparison though, because they used that back in the day. But what HASN'T been done before in wrestling? Like I said in the blog, ECW-WWE is recycling(loosely)the Cactus/Mikey story but replaced Cactus with Dreamer and Whipwreck with Delaney.
From jeff on 5/11/08 8:19 PM
Honestly I can't pick sides when it comes to the WWE and TNA. Both have flaws and goods things about themselves. I like WWE a little more because I've seen it longer.
TNA's gimmick matches are ridiculious. You said what about the Punjabi Prison match. That match is actually good and its just one match. Every month TNA comes up with some ridiculious match with even more ridiculious rules. If these gimmick matches TNA had were good I wouldn't be complaining at all, but 95% of them suck.
Even though TNA has alot of stupid storylines at least they come up with new storylines while the WWE is trying to live in the past. I also love that TNA doesn't have too many big guys like the WWE. The WWE has way too many big wrestlers like Khali, Mark Henry, Big Show, Big Daddy V, that new dude(sorry forgot his name), Kane, Umaga, and a couple of others. Only a couple on that list can actually wrestle. TNA is also fast paced which is a good thing.
The WWE has good things about it too. Like their storylines actually makes sense. Their booking is good(most of the time, but more than TNA). And they make every event feel special. I can name more things, but I don't feel like writing anymore so i'm going to end this. TNA and WWE both have flaws, but no matter how many flaws they have their always good things about them.
From JamesP on 5/11/08 8:46 PM
I can't really pick sides either, but I prefer TNA because I want them to truly become competiton so that both WWE and TNA can be awesome.
From theminister on 5/12/08 2:16 PM
I didn't think the Deuces Wild tournament was a bad idea. I love tournaments so a good tournament is always a good idea. But if TNA was simply going to have all the "randomly selected" teams lose to all the "established" teams, what exactly was the point of including the "randomly selected" teams? Just include 8 established teams and have a really good tourney.
I enjoy both TNA and WWE as well as indys like ROH and Chikara. When there is competition there is usually great wrestling.
I will say I grew up in the 80's in the New York City so I will always have a special place in my heart for the WWE. I rooted for the WWE against WCW during the Monday Night War. And when it's all said and done, the WWE is usually my preference.
From JamesP on 5/12/08 3:51 PM
Same here. As much as I dispise them now, that's what I grew up on.